Saturday, November 18, 2017

Poor America - Poor World






Updated
A group of African elephants drink at a river in South Africa.  
The Trump administration is set to allow the importation of body parts from African elephants shot for sport, contending that encouraging wealthy big-game hunters to kill them will aid the vulnerable species.

Key points:

  • The change marks a shift in policy from a 2014 ban imposed by the Obama administration
  • It applies to the remains of African elephants killed between January 2016 and December 2018
  • The number of African elephants has shrunk from about 5 million a century ago to about 400,000 remaining

The US Fish and Wildlife Service said in a written notice that permitting elephants from Zimbabwe and Zambia to be brought back as trophies will raise money for conservation programs.
The change marks a shift in efforts to stop the importation of elephant tusks and hides, overriding a 2014 ban imposed by the Obama administration. The new policy applies to the remains of African elephants killed between January 2016 and December 2018.
"Legal, well-regulated sport hunting as part of a sound management program can benefit certain species by providing incentives to local communities to conserve those species and by putting much-needed revenue back into conservation," the agency said in a statement.
But White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the decision had not yet been finalised.
"There hasn't been an announcement that's been finalised on this front … until that's done I wouldn't consider anything final," she told reporters when asked about the policy shift.
The move was quickly praised by groups that champion big-game trophy hunting, including Safari Club International and the lobbying arm of the National Rifle Association. The two groups had sued to challenge the ban in court.
"By lifting the import ban on elephant trophies in Zimbabwe and Zambia, the Trump administration underscored, once again, the importance of sound scientific wildlife management and regulated hunting to the survival and enhancement of game species in this country and worldwide," said Chris Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action.
"This is a significant step forward in having hunting receive the recognition it deserves as a tool of sound wildlife management, which had been all but buried in the previous administration."
But conservation groups blasted the move as further imperilling an already endangered species.
"I'm shocked and outraged," said Elly Pepper, a deputy director of the National Resources Defence Counsel.
"I expect nothing less from our President, and if he thinks this is going to go down without a fight, he's wrong."
The group, which does not oppose all hunting, is considering bringing legal action to block the policy change, Ms Pepper said.

African elephant classified as threatened

President Donald Trump's two adult sons are avid trophy hunters.
A photo of Donald Trump Jr holding a knife and the bloody severed tail of an elephant he reportedly killed in Zimbabwe in 2011 sparked outrage among animal rights activists.

Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, who oversees the Fish and Wildlife Service, recently installed the arcade game "Big Buck Hunter Pro" in the employee cafeteria at the agency's Washington headquarters, a move he said would promote wildlife and habitat conservation.
In June, the department removed longstanding protections for grizzly bears near Yellowstone National Park, a step to potentially allow them to be hunted.
The world's largest land mammal, the African elephant has been classified as threatened under the US Endangered Species Act since 1979.
Illicit demand for elephant ivory has led to devastating losses from illegal poaching as the natural habitat available for the animals to roam has also dwindled by more than half.
As a result, the number of African elephants has shrunk from about 5 million a century ago to about 400,000 remaining. That number continues to decline each year.
According to the United Nations, as many as 100,000 African elephants were killed between 2010 and 2012. For forest elephants, the population declined by an estimated 62 per cent between 2002 and 2011.
AP

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The fact that the new policy is backdated to Jan 2016 tells us that this has ZERO to do with "conservation" and everything to do with trophies for the Drumps friends and family !





The world wide life funds supports trophy hunting, it is generally accepted by conservationists that it is the best way to prevent extinction. 





I just can't comprehend how this is happening!! I wish this article would try to explain the argument (however flawed) as to how this move is supposed to benefit conservation. At the moment I can't see it. also does the lifted ban cover ivory or is that excluded?










@Jen* Enjoy the red while it lasts... Whether you like it or not Trump's administration s right... "Hunting...provides an economic incentive for...ranchers to continue to breed these species." and that "hunting...reduces the threat of the species' extinction." - U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
http://www.fws.gov/policy/library/2005/05-17432.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-hunting-endangered-animals-save-the-species/
"A scientific study in the journal, Biological Conservation, states that trophy hunting is of "major importance to conservation in Africa by creating economic incentives for conservation over vast areas, including areas which may be unsuitable for alternative wildlife-based land uses such as photographic econtourism.""'Financial incentives from trophy hunting effectively more than double the land area that is used for wildlife conservation, relative to what would be conserved relying on national parks alone according to Biological Conservation,'
http://www.africanwildlifeconservationfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Economic-and-conservation-significance.pdf

"Trophy hunting has been considered essential for providing economic incentives to conserve large carnivores according to research studies in Conservation BiologyJournal of Sustainable TourismWildlife Conservation by Sustainable Use, and Animal Conservation."
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09669589708667294
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-011-4012-6_15
http://www.ewca.gov.et/sites/default/files/Lindsey et al 2006 Potential of trophy hunting to create incentives for wildlifeconservationin Africa.pdf

'A variety of industries benefit from hunting and support hunting on economic grounds. In Tanzania, it is estimated that a safari hunter spends fifty to one hundred times that of the average ecotourist.'

'The Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy cites that the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.'http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

'A study issued by the Wildlife Society concluded that hunting and trapping are cost effective tools that reduce wildlife damage by reducing a population below the capacity of the environment to carry it and changing the behaviors of animals to stop them from causing damage. The study furthermore states that the cessation of hunting could cause wildlife to be severely harmed, rural property values to fall, and the incentive of landowners to maintain natural habitats to diminish.'http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/bear/policy_lit/conover01.pdf










Thank you for this. it would be good if ABC took the time to actually include the argument (even if the writer doesn't agree) to better inform us of what is going on as opposed stoking outrage - which is what I felt when I read it. That's not to say I agree with hunting at all - I think it is disgusting.





I wonder if there is any connection  to Don Jr and Eric being big game hunters  in Africa?





I do enjoy these buzz word articles... perhaps do a little research on the subject before jumping on the 'Trump said it it must not be true' band wagon...  Whether you like it or not Trump's administration s right... "Hunting...provides an economic incentive for...ranchers to continue to breed these species." and that "hunting...reduces the threat of the species' extinction." - U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.
http://www.fws.gov/policy/library/2005/05-17432.pdf
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/can-hunting-endangered-animals-save-the-species/
"A scientific study in the journal, Biological Conservation, states that trophy hunting is of "major importance to conservation in Africa by creating economic incentives for conservation over vast areas, including areas which may be unsuitable for alternative wildlife-based land uses such as photographic econtourism.""'Financial incentives from trophy hunting effectively more than double the land area that is used for wildlife conservation, relative to what would be conserved relying on national parks alone according to Biological Conservation,'
http://www.africanwildlifeconservationfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Economic-and-conservation-significance.pdf

"Trophy hunting has been considered essential for providing economic incentives to conserve large carnivores according to research studies in Conservation BiologyJournal of Sustainable TourismWildlife Conservation by Sustainable Use, and Animal Conservation."
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09669589708667294
http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-011-4012-6_15
http://www.ewca.gov.et/sites/default/files/Lindsey et al 2006 Potential of trophy hunting to create incentives for wildlifeconservationin Africa.pdf

'A variety of industries benefit from hunting and support hunting on economic grounds. In Tanzania, it is estimated that a safari hunter spends fifty to one hundred times that of the average ecotourist.'

'The Journal of International Wildlife Law and Policy cites that the legalization of white rhinoceros hunting in South Africa motivated private landowners to reintroduce the species onto their lands. As a result, the country saw an increase in white rhinos from fewer than one hundred individuals to more than 11,000, even while a limited number were killed as trophies.'http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

'A study issued by the Wildlife Society concluded that hunting and trapping are cost effective tools that reduce wildlife damage by reducing a population below the capacity of the environment to carry it and changing the behaviors of animals to stop them from causing damage. The study furthermore states that the cessation of hunting could cause wildlife to be severely harmed, rural property values to fall, and the incentive of landowners to maintain natural habitats to diminish.'http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/bear/policy_lit/conover01.pdf










@Azza_AU People here aren't interested in facts, they're basing their opposition entirely on emotion.





Hunting and killing them will benefit them??????
I suppose they really should be grateful they are being slaughtered.










Elephants are destroying Game Reserves in Southern Africa. They have to be culled and in the past they destroyed millions of dollars worth of ivory because there is no legal market for it.... It the mean time the demand for it is still met by illegal poaching.
Sell the stuff, use the money for conservation. A no-brainer really...










@Jake F sounds like you have not seen elephants face to face, and realise that they are very intelligent creatures. sure at times rogue elephants destroy reserves, but so what!. we moved into their country and took over their world. they certainly dont need culling as natural attrition will sort it out. the yanks are good at wiping out species look at the bison!. that wasnt a cull it was a slaughter fuelled by greed.










Some jumbos need culling in Africa after forests are denuded. Why not make a buck out of it ?...BUT...Trump needs the gun lobby and refuses to disarm the crazies in the US after the almost weekly massacres. Future deaths will leave him with blood on his hands. Sadly, the horrific mass murders have seen gun sales SOAR because citizens think that personal protection is their only option. A pistol in a handbag or hidden holster gives them some degree of confidence to go about their daily business. Sad, but true. Agree?










@Geoff5 totally support your point of view mate. thank god i live in australia and i hope not too many of the yanks migrate here and bring their prejudices with them.










Yes it truly is disgusting, they say its tusks from dead elephants & money goes to conservation this is blood sport money. And this will only give poachers the opportunity to make more money. Absolutely stupid idea.





What an absolute disgrace! As if the image of some ego driven neanderthal standing over a dead elephant is not bad enough - condoned by Trump as the USA Gun Lobby's marionette,  we have the repealing of USA importation laws in total contempt of other Country's laws and dedicated conservation efforts. Then their is the absurd logic that this "initiative" will aid funding to the conservation effort. What this WILL do is now provide a market (and therefore motivation) for, not only the neanderthals, but all the poachers when the rest of the world are shutting their markets (and motivation) down.

I really can see money being donated by illegal poachers to help catch them as part of the conservation effort - said NO ONE...EVER!





Disgusting, I really cannot find the words to describe how I feel about this.





Difficult to come to an informed opinion on the rights and wrongs on killing rouge elephants for sport, and the advantages to the community and the elephant conservation issue.
This is however a typical Trump decision, Overturns one made by Obama who probably put more thought into it that he did, so a point scored there, and appeals to that element of the gun loving/hunting community that support him.
I find it difficult to endorse the killing of wildlife no matter what the circumstances. There are exceptions of course like uncontrolled increases in population, but these hardly apply in Africa.





There is no use trying to talk sense into gun happy hunters. You need intelligence to understand constructive argument.  They also tell us that guns don't kill people. If they set up trophy hunting for trophy hunters, I would back that. 





Some Americans are well known for killing penned animals (see Troy Gentry kills tamed bear) and animals attracted to feeding stations. Hunting in the classic 'hunting for food' scenario has nothing to do with their needs. Enamoured with their guns, it's simply a desire to kill something with that shiny new weapon. Traditional hunters typically apologise to the dead animal they've hunted out of necessity, knowing it's life was as valuable as theirs. You won't find that tradition amongst western sporting shooters as the life of another has no value to them.





This is great news for the conservation of these beautiful animals. By supporting the sustainable and legitimate hunting industries where dangerous bulls are culled we are directly helping sustain large nature and game reserves, breeding programs, poacher control, tourism to disadvantaged areas and so on. All of these things are incredibly expensive endeavors, and most African nations cannot run them unless there is outside money coming in. These industries are 1000x better than aid because they help build local economies and support the communities which need it so much. Everyone wins, especially endangered species.
Keep up the good work Trump!










@TE Lawrence I doubt the "beautiful animals" would agree. It's killing an endangered species for sport and profit. It's not being done to benefit and protect the species. If people care so much, contribute directly to the conservation groups. You don't need your trophy or ivory industry.










@MarkD Please tell me how these beautiful animals should deal with dangerous and old bull elephants attacking younger members of the herd? Conservation by necessity today exists within artificial reserves which limit the effect of natural selection. Culling, whether its paid for or not, will be a part of the equation for the foreseeable future and this includes the conservation groups.










@TE Lawrence @MarkD I think that's being very naïve. This has zero to do with concern over conservation and EVERYTHING to do with Donald Jr and his pals being able to bring back their trophies. It's a sickness.





@TE Lawrence @MarkD I'm pretty sure elephant society has been dealing with 'dangerous and old bull elephants' in its own way for a long time before humans decided to intervene. It's called 'nature'. 





@Linzoid You're right, but due to poaching, the majority of elephants live in what are essentially artificial game reserves. While these are vast areas of bush, they are monitored by rangers and threats to their survival are mitigated. Natural selection is not working as it has been before humans were there.





Do any of the people commenting have actual arguments against this?
Can someone tell me why legal hunters are not actually a net positive for the wildlife in Africa?

In a perfect world everyone would be vegan and African nations would be able to fund their own conservation parks but this is not a perfect world.










@SMorgan Can YOU tell ME how shooting endangered species  for sport is a 'net positive' ? (For the species in question, I mean, not the local economy.)










@Linzoid It's all about logistics. To conserve endangered animals in Africa (especially those with ivory) you need incredibly large game reserves with complex breeding programs which need to be protected by heavily armed mercenaries. This is currently funded at a profit by international hunters who pay big money to hunt old bull elephants with big tusks which have become a detriment and often danger to the herd. Leaving these bulls alive in an artificial game reserve where there is less natural selection is actually more of a threat to a herds conservation than culling that bull. If you can do all that, conserve endangered species and make a profit for the local impoverished community, then why would the virtue signaling cries of uneducated Westerners matter one bit?





I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would kill animals for sport. 
Proceeding from there to the idea that allowing export of body parts will assist in the conservation of these animals defies logic. It reminds me of the rhetoric that villages need to be destroyed to save them.










@Cool Hand Luke It's the same reason they drive huge four wheel drives to the supermarket. Small in  the smalls department.





People are mown down on a regular basis in the States, I doubt elephants have got any chance.





The NRA thinks it's a good idea . . enough said. I suppose anybody that speaks up against this in the US will immediately be labelled as 'leftie activist, bleeding-heart, hippy, tree-hugger' etc etc.





The huge US market, probable on-selling to meet demand in China, the American love of all things to do with guns, automatic weapons, shooting, hunting, death and destruction - what hope has this poor, beautiful. magnificent creature got. 





If this proposal gets up, trump will have confirmed beyond any doubt that he is Promoter Of The Unbelievably Stupid.










This is just one more reason to stop trump,he only wants for this for family so they can say look at me I am a big game
hunter what a self centered idiot lot they are! only in the US of A.I for one will not buy anything from them or go there any more its to dangerous, guns, guns,nothing but guns.





I cannot believe it, this is disgusting beyond words - even worse to cloak this crime within the pretext of wildlife management - if there were genuine concern to preserve this magnificent life-form the Trump administration would be advancing the fight against illegal poaching. The photo of Donald Trump Jr says it all about these sick individuals.





What's wrong with these people? Let's allow elephants to be hunted to 'benefit' them? How much more Trump logic can the world endure? 





Words fail me. Conservation??? What a joke. Sad sad day for wildlife....